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一個外國人對台灣女生的概觀

最後一句話不太認同<br />因為香港女生更糟糕<br /><br />===========================<br />As an Adult Business Teacher, i listen to a lot of answers to<br />topic questions in my class. when the topic gets around to love<br />and relationships you always hear TW Girls saying the same exact shit<br /><br />我在一家成人英語補習班教授商用英文,跟學生聊過很多事情,也聽到<br />不少回應。當我和學生聊到愛情和兩性關係之類的主題,台灣女孩子的<br />回答都一樣,又臭又糟糕。<br /><br />" i want a guy who is tall, understands me, is responsible, etc"<br /><br />像是:「最好又高,了解我,又負責任,我最喜歡這樣的男孩子了。」之類的。<br /><br /><br /><br />The problem with this is they never really define what responsible is.<br />From my experience, what they mean by responsible is "safe". They want<br />some castrated man with spiked hair who never takes chances, never<br />moves in a direction that might make them feel unsafe, never walks<br />the path less chosen. They want a guy who is just bent to their wishes<br />for "their dreams" ie, the house, the car, the baby, the whole nine yards.<br /><br />她們所謂的責任感,到底是什麼?這就是問題所在。就我長期觀察,她們所謂的<br />「責任感」,其實就是「安全感」。她們想要一個男人,這個男人可以任由她們<br />擺佈(譯註:任由擺佈,castrated被閹割的,衍生為"毫無男子氣概");這男人<br />從不會令他們感到不安;這男人最好盲從大眾,在人生旅程內,不會走那些崎嶇<br />小徑。她們想要一個男人,這個男人最好能依照她們的意願行事,最好能將她們<br />的意願當作自己的夢想,最好替她們買個房子,買輛車子,養個娃兒,買個超大<br />的庭園。<br /><br />Nothing is wrong with those things, except that they have become<br />the "Price For Admission" so to speak, rather than the result of<br />two people's love and efforts for one another. They constantly take<br />shortcuts.<br /><br />其實這也沒什麼。然而,她們總把這些事情當作是「愛的門票」,而非<br />「兩人互信互愛的結果,彼此付出」的結果。她們喜歡抄小路,而非走<br />康莊大道。<br /><br />These Women always talk about how they want someone who understands<br />them. By this, i take it to mean they want an extension of their<br />spoiling family or old boyfriends (Plan B... but still wait around)<br />who will put up with their temper tantrums, immaturity, and stupidity.<br />These women are basically in the market for either daddy or their<br />older brother, someone who is used to their bullshit.<br /><br /><br />台灣女人總希望某人可以了解自己;換句話說,她們就是想要有一個人,能像自己<br />的家人和男朋友一樣,忍受自己的壞脾氣、不成熟、還有愚蠢。這些女人基本<br />上沒什麼市場,除了自己老爹和哥哥之外,沒人受得了她們的鳥脾氣。<br /><br /><br />Expecting someone to understand you is the height of immaturity.<br />We should seek more to understand others than to be understood.<br />The world owes us nothing, but we live in it, and should learn<br />to adapt to it, not the other way around.<br /><br /><br />想要某人了解自己,這本來就是「不成熟的極致表現」。我們應該試著<br />了解別人,而非怨恨別人不了解自己(譯註:子曰:「不患人之不己知;患不知<br />人也。」)。這世界沒欠我們什麼,而我們卻寄身於此,我們應該學習<br />「與世界和諧相處」,而非「教世界與我們和諧相處」。<br /><br />i find TW women to be utterly selfish, insecure, and self centered.<br />As I have seen with many couples and unfortunate friends,<br />when they age it's even more nonstop bitching and moaning. The<br />focus just becomes on more money, more eating, more competition<br />to show off to family and friends. You can forget about an exciting<br />sex life. Lately i look at them with a mild disgust, despite some of<br />their physical beauty.<br /><br /><br />台灣女人特別自私,自我中心,又很沒安全感。我看過很多夫妻檔和不幸的朋友<br />,當他們老了,還得忍受自己的伴侶不停犯賤和抱怨。她們就是想要更多的錢<br />,吃更多的東西,向自己的家庭和朋友炫耀。你別想說有刺激快樂的性生活,<br />我一向覺得台灣女人有點噁心,雖然她們肉體還是有迷人之處。<br /><br /><br />No pussy is worth being constantly drained by these emotional<br />vampires. Funny, with the many new girls I meet here, I aways say to myself<br />"this one is different". LOL! Nope, same shit with a different package.<br />Same movie played over and over.<br /><br />台灣女人個性善變,像個吸血鬼,她們的鮑不值得追求。我也曾經遇過幾個女孩<br />,試圖說服自己:「這些女孩跟其他女人不一樣。」這很奇妙。然而,英雄聯盟啊!<br />她們換湯不換藥,與其他女人一樣爛。相同的悲劇一再發生。<br /><br />Oh Well, at least have a little fun, play their game, complement<br />them on how brilliant it is to wear glasses without lenses, expect<br />to pay for lots of dinners out. And most important....Yes, indeed,<br />know when to say next. Their stock will in value quick and is a<br />short sale. HK Girls are a way better catch.<br /><br />好吧,玩她們的遊戲,看她們戴上「沒有鏡片的眼鏡」,稱讚她們有多好看,<br />請她們吃晚餐,這些事的確還有點趣味。最重要的就是:「該換下一個,<br />就換下一個了。」她們的價值就像股票賣空一樣,下跌得很快。香港的女孩子<br />好多了呢!<br />
  • Take things further into the arts, music, <br /> DECENT movies beyond Hollywood,<br /> politics, science and philosophy, <br /> I would say that 90% of people in Taiwan<br /> are "educated" to work, not to please the depths of themselves and <br /> others in particularly subtle ways.<br /> <br /> 至於藝術、音樂、好萊烏之外的電影、政治、科學、哲學,那就算了<br /> 吧。我只能說,90%的台灣人之所以受教育,都只是為了工作,而非挖<br /> 掘自己和他人在某些細微方面所產生的深度差異。<br /> <br /> <br /> The worst thing about all this is that the trulyfascinating side <br /> of Chinese culture is either a political conundrum for not knowing <br /> which side to choose, or is slowly sinking face first into oblivion. <br /> There is room for tremendous melting pot in Taiwan, <br /> but not much is being done about it.<br /> <br /> 最糟糕還不只是這樣:中國文化最令人著迷的一面,<br /> 就是其政治思想;<br /> 中國政治家不斷問自己:「政治上,到底要怎麼做才是對的?」<br /> (譯註:中庸!?)<br /> 要不然乾脆隱姓埋名(譯註:隱士!?),<br /> 讓眾人遺忘。這種政治思想可以造就出一個超級族<br /> 群大融爐,然而台灣到目前為止卻還沒為此做出半點東西。<br /> <br /> This is not a blind assault at intercultural differences,<br /> but a good stab at old social etiquettes that were ditched in the 60 and 70's in the West.<br /> <br /> 我之所以這麼說,絕對不是無的放矢,也沒有無視於文化差異,<br /> 而是想改變舊社會的陳腐思想,<br /> 而這些思想則在60年代和70年代遭西方人遺棄。<br /> <br /> The family, school, work ethics to my opinion kills people's potential.<br /> Taiwan has grown economically,<br /> but it will reach full maturity only after<br /> a hard look at itself in relation to the rest of the world,<br /> while learning to accept and integrate true differences, <br /> like other Asian places such as<br /> Singapore have learned to do, <br /> to make for a much nicer place to live <br /> and fit in with open minded people.<br /> <br /> <br /> 就我來看,台灣的家庭、工作倫理、學校系統扼殺個人潛力。<br /> 台灣近幾年來經濟<br /> 大幅成長;然而,想要成為一個完全成熟的社會,<br /> 台灣就得正視他與世界的關係<br /> ,並學習接受及整合兩造之間的差異。<br /> 新加坡曾經所做的改革的,台灣也可以效法,<br /> 這麼一來,台灣會變得更好,人民心胸也會變得寬大。<br /> <br /> In the meantime, it comes across as easy for Taiwanese people to be<br /> pleasant and smiling on the surface, but I do believe that their most<br /> visceral personal and social identity dangerously lacks confidence<br /> and awareness with others at best, or is totally uninterested and<br /> racist deep within, ever so silently.<br /> <br /> 台灣人表面很和善又樂觀;然而,<br /> 我不覺得他們真的是這樣,他們缺乏足夠<br /> 自信和觀察力,不能真實表達個人情緒和認同感;<br /> 換個講法,就是他們其實<br /> 很冷漠,骨子裡又帶有種族偏見,只是他們從來沒講出來罷了。<br /> <br /> <br />
  • 所以...........不知道我轉貼那篇有比較好嗎?<br /> <br /> 如果沒有我也沒有辦法了!<br />
  • <blockquote style="border-left: #999 2px solid; margin: 1em 3em; padding-left: 1em; color: #999">變~~正媚 之話: <br /> <br /> (略)<br /> <br /> The family, school, work ethics to my opinion kills people's potential.<br /> Taiwan has grown economically,<br /> but it will reach full maturity only after<br /> a hard look at itself in relation to the rest of the world,<br /> while learning to accept and integrate true differences, <br /> like other Asian places such as<br /> Singapore have learned to do, <br /> to make for a much nicer place to live <br /> and fit in with open minded people.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 153); ">就我來看,台灣的家庭、工作倫理、學校系統扼殺個人潛力。<br /> 台灣近幾年來經濟<br /> 大幅成長;然而,想要成為一個完全成熟的社會,<br /> 台灣就得正視他與世界的關係<br /> ,並學習接受及整合兩造之間的差異。<br /> 新加坡曾經所做的改革的,台灣也可以效法,<br /> 這麼一來,台灣會變得更好,人民心胸也會變得寬大。</span><br /> <br /> In the meantime, it comes across as easy for Taiwanese people to be<br /> pleasant and smiling on the surface, but I do believe that their most<br /> visceral personal and social identity dangerously lacks confidence<br /> and awareness with others at best, or is totally uninterested and<br /> racist deep within, ever so silently.<br /> <br /> <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0); ">台灣人表面很和善又樂觀;然而,<br /> 我不覺得他們真的是這樣,他們缺乏足夠<br /> 自信和觀察力,不能真實表達個人情緒和認同感;<br /> 換個講法,就是他們其實<br /> <strong>很冷漠,骨子裡又帶有種族偏見,只是他們從來沒講出來罷了。</strong><br /> </span> <br /> <br /> </blockquote><br /> <br /> 其實...............我很早就這麼覺得了耶<br /> <br /> 這2段我很認同<br /> <br /> <br type="_moz" />
  • 不說不知自己在別人眼裡是什麼
    不說不知自己在別人眼裡是什麼
  • <blockquote style="border-left: #999 2px solid; margin: 1em 3em; padding-left: 1em; color: #999">介哥 之話: <br /> <br /> 雙色涼丸 之話: <br /> <br /> 就嫌你沒讀書啦~<br /> <br /> 什麼背景的人就會有什麼立場<br /> 當一個男人,要跟這些男人有同一個立場<br /> <br /> 很悲哀的啦<br /> <br /> 不懂就算啦~干我屁事,是吧~<br /> <br /> 是啊干妳屁事,<img alt="" src="http://forum.fashionguide.com.tw/fckeditor/editor/images/fg/fgicon_29.gif" /><br /> <br /> <br /> </blockquote><blockquote></blockquote><img alt="" src="http://forum.fashionguide.com.tw/fckeditor/editor/images/fg/fgicon_29.gif" /><br /> <br /> 好大好響亮<img alt="" src="http://forum.fashionguide.com.tw/fckeditor/editor/images/fg/fgicon_12.gif" /><br />
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    我到覺得很中肯不是嗎...<br /><br />也許他碰到只是一部分<br /><br />但俗話說 物以類聚<br />不管他今天來的理由為何<br />(你跟他很熟? 不然你怎麼知道他在他的國家混不好?)<br />就他"非自願的"接觸某些人<br />接觸到某一群的人<br />所以他有這樣想法<br /><br />但起碼在我看來...<br />我甚至想說 並不是只有台灣如此<br />而是絕多數的華人都如此吧<br /><br />我真的覺得...<br />這篇文章應該在PTT PCDVD mobile01應該很熱門吧...<br />
  • <blockquote style="border-left: #999 2px solid; margin: 1em 3em; padding-left: 1em; color: #999">agonyofsorrow 之話: <br /> <br /> nini_rock4eva 之話: <br /> <br /> Who really gives a damn about what a foreign trash saying about Taiwanese gals?<br /> <br /> Who the hell he thinks he is? <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="color: #ff0000">我倒是認為他很精準的說出了台灣女生的通病<br /> 觀察相當入微<br /> 光看FG這邊討論區的內容就可以得到實證了</span></blockquote><blockquote></blockquote><br /> <img alt="" src="http://forum.fashionguide.com.tw/fckeditor/editor/images/fg/fgicon_12.gif" />
  • <blockquote style="border-left: #999 2px solid; margin: 1em 3em; padding-left: 1em; color: #999">FOR FREE 之話: <br /> <br /> 九品芝麻官裡有一段對白。<br /> <br /> 包龍星:你是爛屁股!(字幕:屁精)<br /> <br /> 李蓮英:你罵誰!?<br /> <br /> 包龍星:誰搭腔,我就罵誰呀。</blockquote><br /> <img alt="" src="http://forum.fashionguide.com.tw/fckeditor/editor/images/fg/fgicon_29.gif" />
  • <blockquote style="border-left: #999 2px solid; margin: 1em 3em; padding-left: 1em; color: #999">洞洞阿 之話: <br /> <br />  不能以偏概全巴<br /> 他有真的統計過嗎 = =<br /> 總覺得太自以為了</blockquote><br /> 那請教一下<br /> <br /> 說不是的人<br /> 真的統計過嗎?<br /> 樣本數多少?<br /> <br /> 只限於身邊的朋友 同事?<br /> 算不算以偏概全?
  • <blockquote style="border-left: #999 2px solid; margin: 1em 3em; padding-left: 1em; color: #999">笨笨布兒 之話: <br /> <br /> 我想說 的是<br /> <br /> 這樣的女生其實算是少數吧<br /> <br /> <span style="color: #0000ff">妳做過統計?<br /> 沒有的話<br /> 算不算以偏概全?<br /> </span><br /> 我從小到大四周圍怎麼都沒遇過這樣的女生<br /> <br /> 就連公主病也都是在網上聽人講的<br /> <br /> <span style="color: #0000ff">公主病只在異性前發作<br /> 妳追過女生嗎?<br /> 沒追過的話<br /> 沒遇過很正常<br /> </span><br /> <br /> 現實生活有結婚的朋友  男生不管外貌.金錢都沒有過人之處<br /> <span style="color: #0000ff">過人之處<br /> 不一定要讓妳看到<br /> </span><br /> <br /> 我很好奇到底是什麼樣的人才會一直遇到這種女生<br /> <span style="color: #0000ff">外國人阿<br /> ㄈㄈ尺<br /> </span><br /> 物以類聚吧~~<br /> <br /> <br /> </blockquote><br />
  • <blockquote style="border-left: #999 2px solid; margin: 1em 3em; padding-left: 1em; color: #999">姬夜神 之話: <br /> <br />  這個外國人遇到的都是同類型的女人..<br /> <br /> <span style="color: #0000ff">因為<br /> 就好比說 台灣女生很哈老外與ABC 尤其是年輕的台灣女生 他們大多都以交老外男友感到驕傲<br /> </span><br /> 有句話說..物以類聚..<br /> 我想這位外國人應該也是這樣子的人吧</blockquote><br />
  • <blockquote style="border-left: #999 2px solid; margin: 1em 3em; padding-left: 1em; color: #999">變~~正媚 之話: <br /> <br /> Take things further into the arts, music, <br /> DECENT movies beyond Hollywood,<br /> politics, science and philosophy, <br /> I would say that 90% of people in Taiwan<br /> are "educated" to work, not to please the depths of themselves and <br /> others in particularly subtle ways.<br /> <br /> 至於藝術、音樂、好萊烏之外的電影、政治、科學、哲學,那就算了<br /> 吧。我只能說,90%的台灣人之所以受教育,都只是為了工作,而非挖<br /> 掘自己和他人在某些細微方面所產生的深度差異。<br /> <br /> <br /> The worst thing about all this is that the trulyfascinating side <br /> of Chinese culture is either a political conundrum for not knowing <br /> which side to choose, or is slowly sinking face first into oblivion. <br /> There is room for tremendous melting pot in Taiwan, <br /> but not much is being done about it.<br /> <br /> 最糟糕還不只是這樣:中國文化最令人著迷的一面,<br /> 就是其政治思想;<br /> 中國政治家不斷問自己:「政治上,到底要怎麼做才是對的?」<br /> (譯註:中庸!?)<br /> 要不然乾脆隱姓埋名(譯註:隱士!?),<br /> 讓眾人遺忘。這種政治思想可以造就出一個超級族<br /> 群大融爐,然而台灣到目前為止卻還沒為此做出半點東西。<br /> <br /> This is not a blind assault at intercultural differences,<br /> but a good stab at old social etiquettes that were ditched in the 60 and 70's in the West.<br /> <br /> 我之所以這麼說,絕對不是無的放矢,也沒有無視於文化差異,<br /> 而是想改變舊社會的陳腐思想,<br /> 而這些思想則在60年代和70年代遭西方人遺棄。<br /> <br /> The family, school, work ethics to my opinion kills people's potential.<br /> Taiwan has grown economically,<br /> but it will reach full maturity only after<br /> a hard look at itself in relation to the rest of the world,<br /> while learning to accept and integrate true differences, <br /> like other Asian places such as<br /> Singapore have learned to do, <br /> to make for a much nicer place to live <br /> and fit in with open minded people.<br /> <br /> <br /> 就我來看,台灣的家庭、工作倫理、學校系統扼殺個人潛力。<br /> 台灣近幾年來經濟<br /> 大幅成長;然而,想要成為一個完全成熟的社會,<br /> 台灣就得正視他與世界的關係<br /> ,並學習接受及整合兩造之間的差異。<br /> 新加坡曾經所做的改革的,台灣也可以效法,<br /> 這麼一來,台灣會變得更好,人民心胸也會變得寬大。<br /> <br /> In the meantime, it comes across as easy for Taiwanese people to be<br /> pleasant and smiling on the surface, but I do believe that their most<br /> visceral personal and social identity dangerously lacks confidence<br /> and awareness with others at best, or is totally uninterested and<br /> racist deep within, ever so silently.<br /> <br /> 台灣人表面很和善又樂觀;然而,<br /> 我不覺得他們真的是這樣,他們缺乏足夠<br /> 自信和觀察力,不能真實表達個人情緒和認同感;<br /> 換個講法,就是他們其實<br /> 很冷漠,骨子裡<span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>又帶有種族偏見,只是他們從來沒講出來罷了</strong></span>。<br /> <br /> <br /> </blockquote><img alt="" src="http://forum.fashionguide.com.tw/fckeditor/editor/images/fg/fgicon_29.gif" />+1  都跑到網路上講了<br />
  • <blockquote style="border-left: #999 2px solid; margin: 1em 3em; padding-left: 1em; color: #999">丸小里 之話: <br /> <br /> <span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Verdana"><span style="font-size: medium"><strong>什麼樣的人會說房價太高/買不起房的人<br /> <br /> 什麼樣的人會說有錢人不快樂/口袋沒錢的人<br /> <br /> 什麼樣的人眼裏盡是天方夜譚/以管窺天的人<br /> <br /> 只要如此說.便能掩飾自己的無能.<br /> <br /> 那麼又是什麼樣的人會直接說.全台灣女人不好.打翻整艘船呢? <br /> <br /> 一個在台灣只有 怕秋請的份 的人.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 非常讚同以上大大所說的見解<br /> <br /> 而且這種女生應該全世界都用吧!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> </strong></span></span></span><br /> </blockquote><br />
  • <strong>既然我不是這樣,那我為什麼要接受外國人講<br /> <u>台灣女人就是這樣</u>?<br /> <br /> 既然每個人都認為自己不是這樣<br /> 為何由自己所見的可能某一人,某一團體,某一現象<br /> 就承認台灣女人確實是這樣?</strong><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <img alt="" src="http://forum.fashionguide.com.tw/fckeditor/editor/images/fg/fgicon_8.gif" /><span style="font-size: large">+100000000   以後有人想要以偏概全 最好前面加個<u>少部分 極小部分的台灣女人  </u>不然咱一群行得正的人  還要被納入爛掉的台灣女人裡     金每送公<img alt="" src="http://forum.fashionguide.com.tw/fckeditor/editor/images/fg/fgicon_31.gif" /></span><br /> <br />
  • 何必在台灣教英文??????<br /> <br /> 在膚淺的圈子裡想遇到有深度的人 <br /> 的確很難<br /> <br /> <br type="_moz" />
  • <blockquote style="border-left: #999 2px solid; margin: 1em 3em; padding-left: 1em; color: #999">幾咪 之話: <br /> <br /> <strong>既然我不是這樣,那我為什麼要接受外國人講<br /> <u>台灣女人就是這樣</u>?<br /> <br /> 既然每個人都認為自己不是這樣<br /> 為何由自己所見的可能某一人,某一團體,某一現象<br /> 就承認台灣女人確實是這樣?</strong><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <img alt="" src="http://forum.fashionguide.com.tw/fckeditor/editor/images/fg/fgicon_8.gif" /><span style="font-size: large">+100000000   以後有人想要以偏概全 最好前面加個<u>少部分 極小部分的台灣女人  </u>不然咱一群行得正的人  還要被納入爛掉的台灣女人裡     金每送公<img alt="" src="http://forum.fashionguide.com.tw/fckeditor/editor/images/fg/fgicon_31.gif" /></span><br /> <br /> </blockquote><br /> <br /> <br /> 原始討論串<br /> <a href="http://www.thisplacesucks.com/post2/showthread_177.html">http://www.thisplacesucks.com/post2/showthread_177.html</a><br /> <br /> 金每送緊氣嗆聲<br /> 共宛台灣查某囝仔恩西阿餒<br /> 乾巴爹<br /> <br /> <br /> 好像有很多人不爽齁<br /> 底下有Add your comment<br /> 廣快去幹譙也好  澄清也好<br /> 不然只在FG義憤填膺<br /> 好像有沒啥小路用
  • <blockquote style="border-left: #999 2px solid; margin: 1em 3em; padding-left: 1em; color: #999">水蛙嫂 之話: <br /> <br /> 何必在台灣教英文??????<br /> <br /> <span style="color: #ff0000">在膚淺的圈子裡想遇到有深度的人 <br /> 的確很難<br /> <br /> </span><br type="_moz" /> </blockquote><br /> <br /> 這句話值兩個<img alt="" src="http://forum.fashionguide.com.tw/fckeditor/editor/images/fg/fgicon_12.gif" /><img alt="" src="http://forum.fashionguide.com.tw/fckeditor/editor/images/fg/fgicon_12.gif" /><br /> 一語道破我來這裡這麼久的感想
  • <br /> <br /> <br /> 這些論點~~完全不認同~~可能是他自己有問題或自卑吧<br /> <br /> 不然這麼剛好~~這類型的女生都被他遇到~~那就是他的問題了
  •  這個外國教師是遇到愛慕虛榮的女生<br /> 還是遇到公主病的女生<br /> 怎麼會把台灣的女生批評的那麼嚴重<br /> 可能是因為他都跟學生談感情<br /> 所以就認為台灣的女人就是這樣<br /> 其實不管那一國都有獨特的地方<br /> 請不要以偏概全<br /> 難道那位外國教師都有在北、中、南交往過<br /> 請小心得病
  • 什麼樣的鍋會配什麼樣的蓋吧<br /> 可能他遇到都這類型的女生才會有這樣想法<br /> 且老實說台灣人對感情的態度有滿多不成熟的想法,不管男女<br /> <br type="_moz" />
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